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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 22, 2011 13:31:47 GMT -5
*SPOILERS - DO NOT READ THREAD UNLESS YOU HAVE READ THE APPROPRIATE BOOKS - in this case : SOUL DRINKERS omnibus, by Ben Counter and the follow on book : Chapter War *
Out of the many Black Library books I've read my favourite Space Marine series is the Soul Drinkers omnibus, by Ben Counter. Not to mention the follow on book - Chapter War.
There is a theme of loyalty, honour and not succumbing to the Chaos powers, like many other 'renegade' marines have done before the Soul Drinkers.
Many powerful characters come and go - Chapter Master Gorgoleon, Sarpedon, Tellos, Chaplain Iktinos, Luko, Techmarine Lygris, Graevus, Captain Karraidin and scout Eumenes - and each leaves their own mark on the chapter.
Another thing - Chapter War's ending : are they up shit creek now, or what?
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Post by Walrus on Jun 22, 2011 17:53:29 GMT -5
Hang on... Have you read the one where they go up against necrons?
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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 23, 2011 14:35:40 GMT -5
That's at the very end, I believe, when they lose Techmarine Lygris (arguably the most important guy in the chapter), but before the 'Fists turn up to apprehend them.
Iktinos was the most mysterious character. What were his motives? Was his quest to purify the Chapter being driven by the Emperor or Tzeentch?
We'll never know..
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Post by Walrus on Jun 23, 2011 18:33:19 GMT -5
Goddamn cliffhangers... But still Iktinos and his flock fought like men possessed at the front gate of the spaceport against the horde of necrons...
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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 24, 2011 15:10:42 GMT -5
Iktinos is just crazy. One of the strangest traits of his character is that he is so 'anti-mutant' in mindset, like all Imperials, but that he himself is a mutant.
He hides the scales on his arms and yet wants some kind of solution to the chapter's rapid mutation rate.
The scene in the first book where many of the chapter spontaneously mutate was just bizzare, but then Counter explains it in one of the later books where radiation effected the gene-seed.
Timing, though...
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Post by Walrus on Jun 24, 2011 20:20:53 GMT -5
Hmmm... Counter did do an amazing job with the soul drinkers overall.
How about the fight between Sarpedon and Mercaeno!
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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 26, 2011 6:02:20 GMT -5
The Howling Griffons? That was brilliant.
But my fave adversary was the bad guy in book one. He was just some Nurgle corpse, with dead palanquin bearers; who made all the dead come back to life. Zombie fever.
He just reminded me of this comedy sketch about a body. Mister Dead.
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Post by Walrus on Jun 26, 2011 6:30:42 GMT -5
The one Abraxes tricked them into fighting? That was interesting, with the 'firing squad' execution...
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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 27, 2011 14:50:46 GMT -5
That was genius. I know ... we'll just shoot him. A lot.... All of us...
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Post by Walrus on Jun 27, 2011 18:30:04 GMT -5
You know what I found funny about that? They were worried about being caught in the bottom of the boat and drowning, yet they are wearing fully functional power armour...
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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 29, 2011 11:19:24 GMT -5
There was quite a bit of bizzare activity in the series. Why the hell did they destroy their fleet of ships? I'm sure Lygris could have disabled whatever it is that makes Battle Barges traceable to Imperial authorities. I'm sure other renegades/ traitor fleets have them..
The Brokenback was too big and made them an easier target.
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Post by Walrus on Jun 30, 2011 4:50:52 GMT -5
Maybe they didn't have enough men/crews to man them all?
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 1, 2011 9:53:54 GMT -5
Probably. But I'd rather have a battle barge than a space hulk.
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Post by Walrus on Jul 1, 2011 21:50:26 GMT -5
Why? A space hulk is harder to destroy, most likely has more weaponry, alien artefacts and all sorts of hidden treasures.
What does a battle barge have to compare?
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 4, 2011 13:46:20 GMT -5
True ; the Brokenback was a bit of a treasure trove, but it was so huge I suspect they could have hidden the odd battle barge in there.
Even if the SD scuttled their own space-ship fleet as a symbolic act - they should have kept a battle barge : the most manouevrable ship around.
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Post by Walrus on Jul 4, 2011 18:31:59 GMT -5
Or they could have crashed it into the Brokenback and hoped for the best ;D
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 13, 2011 11:43:15 GMT -5
I'm sure it's big enough to have a battle barge storage compartment. Remember those big old style aircraft they find in there? Boeing 747s in 40k!
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Post by Walrus on Jul 17, 2011 3:56:48 GMT -5
I would think a Boeing 747 would be around the size of a thunderhawk...
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 21, 2011 8:07:21 GMT -5
True, but imagine loads of heavy marines in a plane made of light-weight materials like that..  |
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Post by Walrus on Jul 21, 2011 9:51:49 GMT -5
It would probably wind up like that angry marine thing where they tear through the thunderhawk and ride the engines to the ground ;D
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 25, 2011 16:59:11 GMT -5
Tellos was the ultimate angry marine. You can't really be angrier than Tellos, or even Angron for that matter, without developing a serious hernia.
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