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Post by Walrus on Aug 28, 2011 0:42:11 GMT -5
*Walrus steps from the shadows, slumped and dejected*
I know you are watching, Jackal. Come, mock me like the others... Or assist, and we can show them the real power in Commoragh!
*ahem*
Okay, so I am restarting me efforts in creating a powerful force to crush my enemies. I have an archon, and two squads of warriors w/ blasters and splinter cannons, and a raider. The first steps have been taken.
And have hit a snag.
There is an unpainted, unassembled box of wyches sitting in the 'production line', and the battleforce will soon be mine. And I have no idea what to do with them.
Experience, and general assistance is required, especially as I have a mon-keigh 'Imperial' waiting to be slaughtered as soon as I can.
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Post by The Black Jackal on Aug 28, 2011 1:05:27 GMT -5
When you say "Imperial," do you mean Imperial Guard, Sisters or some flavor of Space Marines?
Either way, you should have a total of two squads of Wyches, an Archon, three Warrior squads, two Raiders and possibly some Reavers, counting the ones in the battleforce. So, we have us some options.
Personally, I would break up one of the Warrior squads into two Blasterborn squads, and maybe convert some more Archons from the spare Warriors. A Blaster Archon riding with a 4-man squad of Blaster Trueborn in a Venom with the appropriate upgrades (second Splinter Cannon, Night Shields) makes for a very potent anti-tank unit, and if you give your Archon a clonefield, djinn blade and drugs he can still be pretty badass in close combat. Of course, this requires getting your hands on a Venom, but believe me when I say that they're worth it.
Your Wyches, on the other hand, are a conundrum both easily solved and troublesome to implement. If you intend to mount your Warriors in Raiders you will need to either get your hands on more Raiders for your Wyches or run a Webway Portal, which will require both a portal carrier and a strategy that will allow you to deploy it effectively in almost any scenario. I, personally, would suggest getting more Raiders as that extra dark lance can never hurt, especially if you're already running a list with little AT capability.
Of course, Reavers are always awesome, just be sure that they don't leave without their Caltrops. Those things are death to IG Heavy Weapons Squads. Of course, I can't help you much unless I know what sort of list you can expect to face.
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Post by Walrus on Aug 28, 2011 5:29:01 GMT -5
The thing is, he (my upcoming opponent) has armies of every imperial flavour.
I think I will use the 2 blasterborn squads, but I should only have to convert one archon, as you can only take 2 archons?
More raiders are definitely on the way, as soon as the required funds become available. This means it will take longer to complete the force I need, but so be it. Also, what upgrades do you reccomend for the raiders?
It won't be worth taking heat lances or blasters for the reavers, seeing as they will be boosting everywhere? And because they are eldar jetbikes, they can move an extra 6 inches in the assault phase, I assume.
I will get to work and create an army list, and see how many points it is. Then, get him to make a list of similar size.
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Post by The Black Jackal on Aug 28, 2011 16:29:48 GMT -5
With Raiders, it really depends on who's taking them. With Warriors, I tend to give 'em night shields and flickerfields, and occasionally splinter racks (but only if they're riding with the Duke). With Wyches, I prefer chain snares, Aethersails and shock prows, make 'em nice and deadly in the movement phase.
Sometimes it's worth taking super guns on Reavers, but only if you don't have enough darklights in your list already (1 per 100 points is a good number to shoot towards); your turboboost gets you into a tactically advantageous position and causes some carnage, and your target most likely won't be able to out-maneuver you, either. However, I rarely find myself in the position where I need to arm my Reavers with darklights, since I'm usually running with three Ravagers and a Blasterborn squad.
Eldar Jetbikes may not use their 6" assault move (or their 12" one, for that matter) in the same turn they turboboost. Says so in the BRB.
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Post by Walrus on Aug 29, 2011 9:22:59 GMT -5
Okay, so with you advice, I have come up with this:
1700 points
Archon: 125 points
+ Blaster
+ Combat drugs
+ Djinn blade
+ Clone field
Archon: 125 points
+ Blaster
+ Combat drugs
+ Djinn blade
+ Clone field
Trueborn (4): 183 points
+ x4 Blasters
+ Venom
+ Splinter Cannon
+ Night Shields
Trueborn (4): 183 points
+ x4 Blasters
+ Venom
+ Splinter Cannon
+ Night Shields
Kabalite Warriors (10): 250 points
+ Blaster
+ Splinter Cannon
+ Syrabite
+Agoniser
+ Phantasm launcher
+ Raider
+ Nightshield
+ Flickerfield
+ Advanced Aethersails
Kabalite Warriors (10): 245 points
+ Blaster
+ Splinter Cannon
+ Syrabite
+Agoniser
+ Phantasm launcher
+ Raider
+ Nightshield
+ Flickerfield
Wyches (10): 250 points
+ Hydra gauntlets
+ Razor flails
+ Hekatrix
+ Blast pistol
+ Agoniser
+ Raider
+ Advanced Aethersails
+ Shock prow
+ Chain snares
+ Flickerfield
Wyches (10): 250 points
+ Hydra gauntlets
+ Razor flails
+ Hekatrix
+ Blast pistol
+ Agoniser
+ Raider
+ Advanced Aethersails
+ Shock prow
+ Chain snares
+ Flickerfield
Reaver Jetbikes (3): 86 points
+ Cluster caltrops
Archons ride with blasterborn. Warriors run rings around opponents, wyches stab exposed parts to oblivion.
Viable?
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Post by Walrus on Aug 30, 2011 5:57:25 GMT -5
Minor tweak made, now the wych's raiders have protection bit the form of a Flickerfield.
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Post by Walrus on Sept 11, 2011 3:15:10 GMT -5
Inspiration! I found a way to combat my blaster woes:  Cut down dark lances! |
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Post by flamingkillamajig on Oct 29, 2011 18:49:16 GMT -5
I'm just going to use this thread to extent what i want to do with dark eldar. I don't want wyches really but i think a lot of hellions instead of wyches, trueborn (possibly with blasters and possibly even dark lances), incubi, and transports for all of them would be nice. I'm wondering if i should even use the new retinue for the archons but i'm thinking no. The same goes for the mass of beasts or the grotesques but i might actually use both. So yeah i think hellions will be great with drugs and pain tokens. Perhaps using some things effectively will get them kicking ass properly. Might have to get the duke and some haemonculi going as well. I'll have to see how bloodbrides are. They always interested me more than wyches even though i'm told wyches are more numerous and have the same save plus only wyches and warriors are troops if i remember correctly. That's not exactly good if i have to take objectives.
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Post by cheminhaler on Oct 30, 2011 8:50:41 GMT -5
Beautiful squad, Walrus.
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Post by flamingkillamajig on Oct 30, 2011 9:03:20 GMT -5
Purple?! Why don't you just color them like erect penises? Wait they are orgy ridden slaanesh creators. Uh maybe i started something i shouldn't have.
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Post by Walrus on Nov 2, 2011 9:17:46 GMT -5
Oh I wish those were mine... I found them while solution hunting :S
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Post by cheminhaler on Nov 2, 2011 15:39:50 GMT -5
Paint! Paint! Paint! Paint!
Actually I've been procrastinating a lot after the 2 sentinels and the 2 chem troopers. It's pathetic. We need to whip each other into painting action..
*Pulls out electro power whip and lashes Walrus..*
You paint Dark Eldar. You paint DE NAO!
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Post by Walrus on Nov 2, 2011 18:11:07 GMT -5
It's a good pain...
*lashes chem back* You paint guard! You paint guard NAO!
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Post by flamingkillamajig on Nov 2, 2011 18:21:39 GMT -5
Well while you guys are off pleasing each other in BDSM i think i'm going to slack off in the painting department. Actually i was thinking of painting some of my roommate's grave guard and when i get more paints i'll paint my remaining clanrat i wanted to finish up and then paint my warlord finally.
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Post by cheminhaler on Nov 4, 2011 15:39:10 GMT -5
*Lashes FKM*
You paint last clanrat! You paint last clanrat NAO!
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Post by flamingkillamajig on Nov 4, 2011 22:43:26 GMT -5
I would lol but without dwarf flesh and chaos black painting has gone down to nothing. Maybe if i get to go up to GW i may have money for a couple paints. We're not even sure if we'll get to go because a friend says he's about 70% sure but it may fall through. Btw i painted one grave guard last night to fix it up a bit and then i mostly just ran out of chaos black paint. I hate how i painted it pretty thoroughly and still wasn't happy about it much later. It still has a couple small things to fix but i think i'm done. Unfortunately i thought i was done the last time too and then i just got anally bothered by it again that i had to paint it.
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